Rutus VERSA on new software 6.14 NC

[EL NINO]

Operation and capabilities of the new 6.14 NC software for Versa...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNmoVO8B26k

[NASA-Tom]

VERY good video! The A.I. language translation was also: very correct...... and appreciated!
The technical data was proper/good/applicable.
What was NOT explained....... ((which was the entire intent/purpose of the video!!!))....... is that: certain iron (& steel) can be adjusted .....to allow: "audio bleed-through" of low conductor targets co-located in/amongst/around iron. Today..... this has become a CRITICAL function of good detectors & serious hunters. Paramount!
In the metal detecting industry......Almost 30 years ago...... we were (feverishly) working on two things:
H.R.I.D. = High Resolution Iron Discrimination
H.R.A.D. = High Resolution Aluminum Discrimination

The First Generation of 'Advanced Iron Handling Abilities' was performed through: A separate, independent control that would allow the user to "split hairs"....via: a very fine-tune iron Discrimination knob/pot/control. {Fisher Research Laboratory}

The Second Generation itteration of H.R.I.D. iron Discrimination is on Minelab's Manticore.....via:
Ferrous Limits = UPPER
Ferrous Limits = LOWER
In layman's terms......UPPER is to give/present a fine-tune of adjustability to: nails
In layman's terms......LOWER is to give/present a fine-tune of adjustability to: larger sheet-steel/tin (and steel bottle caps)
This is also to say: There is a fairly large difference between: IRON nails......VS......STEEL bottle caps.

I am REALLY glad to see the industry "catching on" to (and: employing) Ferrous Limits = UPPER & LOWER. It will 'unlock' many of the old "hunted out" sites. It is neat to see VERSA now employing this (a very similar) Second Generation itteration of H.R.I.D.

The biggest training-tool/key...... on HOW to properly set up the UPPER/LOWER limits ..... is dictated by each individual hunting site. . . . . because: The "decomposition" status of---- iron VS steel---- at each individual hunting site..... differs!........therefore: must be tailored to each individual site. First: Focus on the overall average/aggregate minimum/threshold Disc level of the UPPER (the iron)......at each hunt site. Secondly: Then focus on the overall average/aggregate minimum/threshold Disc level of the LOWER (the steel).....at each hunt site.

This write-up/thread..... should probably be posted in the large Manticore thread also.......... as the data is pertinent to both: Manticore and Versa!

[JCR]

Thanks for the posts.

[EL NINO]

VERY good video! The A.I. language translation was also: very correct...... and appreciated!
The technical data was proper/good/applicable.
What was NOT explained....... ((which was the entire intent/purpose of the video!!!))....... is that: certain iron (& steel) can be adjusted .....to allow: "audio bleed-through" of low conductor targets co-located in/amongst/around iron. Today..... this has become a CRITICAL function of good detectors & serious hunters. Paramount!
In the metal detecting industry......Almost 30 years ago...... we were (feverishly) working on two things:
H.R.I.D. = High Resolution Iron Discrimination
H.R.A.D. = High Resolution Aluminum Discrimination

The First Generation of 'Advanced Iron Handling Abilities' was performed through: A separate, independent control that would allow the user to "split hairs"....via: a very fine-tune iron Discrimination knob/pot/control. {Fisher Research Laboratory}

The Second Generation itteration of H.R.I.D. iron Discrimination is on Minelab's Manticore.....via:
Ferrous Limits = UPPER
Ferrous Limits = LOWER
In layman's terms......UPPER is to give/present a fine-tune of adjustability to: nails
In layman's terms......LOWER is to give/present a fine-tune of adjustability to: larger sheet-steel/tin (and steel bottle caps)
This is also to say: There is a fairly large difference between: IRON nails......VS......STEEL bottle caps.

I am REALLY glad to see the industry "catching on" to (and: employing) Ferrous Limits = UPPER & LOWER. It will 'unlock' many of the old "hunted out" sites. It is neat to see VERSA now employing this (a very similar) Second Generation itteration of H.R.I.D.

The biggest training-tool/key...... on HOW to properly set up the UPPER/LOWER limits ..... is dictated by each individual hunting site. . . . . because: The "decomposition" status of---- iron VS steel---- at each individual hunting site..... differs!........therefore: must be tailored to each individual site. First: Focus on the overall average/aggregate minimum/threshold Disc level of the UPPER (the iron)......at each hunt site. Secondly: Then focus on the overall average/aggregate minimum/threshold Disc level of the LOWER (the steel).....at each hunt site.

This write-up/thread..... should probably be posted in the large Manticore thread also.......... as the data is pertinent to both: Manticore and Versa!

Mr. Dankowski as always, you said very valuable things about the video VERSA 6.14 nc.. as well as the data about Manticore...

"Advanced iron discrimination, 3 layers" in Versa 6.14 Nc F1/F2/BC.. allows to improve the separation properties of the detector,, as well as the depth properties of the detector.. if it is properly leveled and properly set...

Yes, another correct observation is also that.. that the terrain properties and the situation of iron contamination in the terrain will be a basic factor on how to properly set the individual layers of such discrimination....

In many cases, the properties and mineralization of the terrain have a very strong influence on how the requirements for proper discrimination of the same iron in different terrain can change...

A well-tuned detector with such a discrimination setting... can more effectively detect...or in it is necessary to unmask other potential targets in the already detected terrain ..which were already detected by other targets ..before the relatively less advanced detection technology of target detection ...
It is mainly smaller targets .... mostly low-conductivity., or medium-conductivity., and possibly also small high-conductivity targets ..where the factor of target size and terrain complexity has not yet allowed to effectively detect targets in depth .,,, and also possibly targets between iron ...

[EL NINO]

This video from UK... allows you to see quite well how the new VERSA Software of the 6.xx series works, in this case the final 6.14Nc.. in iron discrimination and in unmasking non-ferrous targets among iron..
Although this is a synthetic test... it allows you to reasonably well evaluate the detection properties of the new Versa software *6.14Nc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1jPWZqoQ38

[JCR]

Here is my contribution to the task. This concerns high mineral Maghemite soil with smaller targets intermingled with iron at depth. https://youtu.be/_SlVUfOHvfw

[NASA-Tom]

EL NINO...... It looks like Versa has come a LONG way. The unmasking enhancements........ from what I am seeing in the videos..... looks to be Next-Generation..... for Rutus. AND......... it is in the 3-Dimentional World (3D plane)....... where it matters the most.

Chris........ I am LOVING seeing you (and many others) creating a test-garden. ESPECIALLY...... Simplex AND Complex scenarios! The multi-target (and at different depths) scenarios...... it what really presents: Grand-Finale answers........as to what REALLY happens in the real World.
(You've got bad dirt!).

[JCR]

An established Test Garden that simulates your real world conditions is the best Study Hall. The Classroom is out in the Field.

Here is another video per El Nino's suggestion. https://youtu.be/mqFTcf0ozyg

[JCR]

Examining the strengths of an earlier Versa software version.
It is very simple & easy to go back & forth between any software version the Versa has used. This can even be done in the Field without Internet connection. All you need is Wi-Fi. The drawback is you have to Master Reset the unit & lose any customization. It would be very useful if the Versa could save multiple software versions at the same time with no re set required. The Rutus Atrex was able to do this;(I'm not sure about the Reset.) With this capability, you could pick the best version to optimize for difficult site conditions. https://youtu.be/PVzrxqNoOgM

[JCR]

Conclusion to the prior video. https://youtu.be/aP9DO4u-wRY